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Gonedalf
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
ngmi
Some big sales have triggered an avalanche of sales. Some say how bullish they are, but still sell coins from active creators to send clout to exchanges afterwards. A cause for concern? Probably not. Is it the end? Probably not. But it is time to question what the reason is. The NFT hype came to an abrupt end due to scammers. 💡 There needs to be a zero tolerance policy towards scammers. Blacklisting? Not a fan of that, but temporarily take away their rights to mint new NFTs and make sure the sale of their own coins is blocked.
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Sandirose
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
I like that as a proposed solution. I’d also really love to see some sort of implementation of an image search that’s done before a piece of “art” can be minted, perhaps even returning a result of what percentage of an image could be copied from other sources. On the investment side, buying and selling creator coins is an “investment” activity (even if people take is as a measure of support) the point of which is to make money so I think trading is good.
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Gonedalf
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
The Image Search can be easily tricked and there will be a lot of results for stock photos/vectors etc. this way. You never know if the creator has the proper license to use it and tbh. I dont like it that we put everyone under general suspicion. And it became much harder lately, because scammers become smarter. Reverse Search is not working for flipped images for example.
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Sandirose
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
That’s a good point. It’s a slippery slope to other issues from that.
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BitSynth
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
I notice way too much scamming. This has been a problem for a while but I remember when the good used to outweigh the bad. Now it’s tough to keep up.
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Gonedalf
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
Exactly..
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DerLiber
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
I like this ideas of removing mint and sell permissions temporarily. But I don't know WHO should do this. A single person? The core dev-team? A special group of people built only for this function? There have to be an option to "vote" for this for the community. And if a number of votes is reached the permissions will deactivated automatically. But who should got the vote permission? Surely not everyone because of bots and scamer and trolls. But when will a user get this permission? Followercount? Can be bottet. Checkmark? There were also scammers with a tick, right? A coinprice? You can buy your own coin so you probally can buy this right. I don't know a soloution, but voting seems to be the fairest and most decentralized, or am I wrong on this?
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Gonedalf
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
Right now they get reported and blacklisted when there is serious doubt. By deactivating the minting rights they have enough time to refute the allegations by uploading the proper licenses, videos or whatever is needed as proof. There will be no way to manage this in a decentralized way, when we want mass adoption.
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DerLiber
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
In every case is it much more fair to just deactivating some rights than blacklisting, so the affected user get a chance to justify themselves with proofs
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flanagan
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
Centralized approaches like this aren't long-term solutions for a decentralized platform IMO
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Gonedalf
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
There won't be a decentralized solution for this tho.
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BDoK007
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
Not just NFT scammers. Lots of kinds if scammers are around and some of them are (including NFTs) still being supported by high profiles. Blacklisting? Should be completely removed of the system. “Blocking” is a personal choice and if this is done by another, it is violation of freedom and opens door to censorship. Especially in main node. Even a node may be blacklisted. Zero tolerance policy? It may be harsh. For ppl like you and me forgiving is a big issue. But ppl can change. Unfortunately examples we saw did not fit this but that doesnt mean “all” are same. Again it is a personal decision. A personal msg: please check your dm.
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Gonedalf
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
That's why I think a temporary deactivation of their ability to mint NFTs or sell their coins untill the case was investigsted is the best solution short-term.
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BDoK007
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
Still a "central" authority to decide. Yes I agree with you with the solution but it is not fitting "decentralized" idea. Users themselves need to be aware.
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Gonedalf
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
But it is needed for mass adaption. Not all aspects of decentralization are good. The moment we have masses here and they get scammed the platform will die, because people will leave and word of mouth is stronger than any marketing can be. And there are huge legal issues which prevent people from running own nodes - violation of IPs/copyright infrigements are parts of this.
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BDoK007
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
Half of me supports you from the bottom of heart. Other half is stuck with "decentralized" part. Agreed to have a "central commitee" for all disputes. But current situation showed us most important decisions are taken in the shadows. As long as everything is transparent, I am fully with you. Blockchain's very basic principle "Trust no one, trust everyone"
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Gonedalf
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
Of course it has to be fully transparent. BitClout is far away from decentralization atm.
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BDoK007
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
I felt like we are discussing about saving the world :) I really would love to have this converstaion with you in person. Ask @yigitcakar about "raki table" :D
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Gonedalf
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
I know the concept, have a lot of Turkish friends :-)
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BDoK007
2021-08-19
• 6 months ago
Perfect :)
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