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Post by kitty4d

2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
so developers who use DeSo Identity are accepting that the included terms of service (it’s there but you can only find it when you are getting a new seed phrase- just hit next and look at the TOS, it doesn’t hurt anything to get a new seed phrase and not use it) will be their own TOS. i assume this is known by anyone using it, though the docs don’t expressly state this. but: 1) the TOS is barely enforced it seems? 18+, yet there are accounts for children at least as young as 9 years old accessible on bitclout.com and diamondApp.com (I guess hopefully scammers, but how do you know when the bios just say the age), I brought this up a week ago. 2) how does the TOS work if the content is coming from the blockchain? does the TOS only apply to a person directly using the app, and not to a person whose data is making its way into the app by other means? it will appear as if those people used the app to anyone on the outside. how are other devs dealing with this kind of data existing in the blockchain? i know the bigger apps that are coming have things in place, such as using machine learning to recognize problem content and hide it automatically. but for independent devs just using a backend API, when the node isn’t applying their own TOS (and I’m not sure that even if a node bans a user that it blocks that user’s data from being returned by the API but hopefully it does?), has anyone figured out any type of solution in order to remain compliant with laws? i mentioned COPPA last week but hadn’t realized there were actually profiles for children under 13 when i had posted it, when i had noticed it i tried getting in touch with someone to understand what was going on, but haven’t heard anything since last weekend. it is really crappy btw. we all know some of this stuff and i am pretty new, what exactly is going on. come on. it makes me feel awful. if somehow magically things are different here than on YouTube and Facebook and Twitter and every other place.. well, i don’t really know what the argument there could be. curious to hear what other people may have come up with. or if people think we are exempt from these things, i would love to know how.
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FatWalrusBeard
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
I’m with you 100% on this; with this kind of platform there really needs to be some kind of enforcement to stop under 18s creating accounts here, but that would make the platform more centralised, and well…it just turns everything into a big ol’ mess. To have a decentralised platform there’s alot we can’t actually do and that will hurt everyone as a whole.
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ceponatia
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
IMO decentralization = let parents parent.
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FatWalrusBeard
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
But children really have no business here, not a single bit.
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ceponatia
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
I agree, but how can you enforce that? The free dollar bitclout gives you is all you need to have an established account once people start diamonding.
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FatWalrusBeard
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
The core team can easily put something in place to figure this out. Like the ID verify for instance? It only checks to see if the ID is real, it doesn’t check age.
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ceponatia
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
That's a short term solution but isn't the plan eventually to allow DESO to be used with 3rd party wallets? If that happens there's not really a way to control who uses a node that isn't run by the core team is there?
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FatWalrusBeard
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
But, if a node uses DeSo.identity it then automatically takes on the TOS which makes it clear that you have to be 18+ to use this platform.
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hugetiny
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
@Sarah_Wesley are you still around? I'd love to hear your opinions on this
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MistyS
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
I was just going to tag her.
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aaronsuncamacho
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
Good questions! (the laws, questionable.) 🕉️☀️💜🙏
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kitty4D
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
i am not giving any kind of support to the law, I mean, I think it should be revised, but I want to know if I need to be concerned as a developer and I just don’t see where this has been brought up for discussion (searching the entire blockchain for COPPA only brings back irrelevant posts until my post last week). and I mean I don’t know how it works but it’s not like it only matters to US sites. but maybe it’s just something super unlikely, I just want to hear that.
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MistyS
2022-02-05
• 7 months ago
I started replying to this and ran out of room. Oi!
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