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2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
question: if twitter creates a node, and merges our content with their own, would that help DeSo or hurt it? there's no reason they couldn't do it, when on twitter, just have some qualifier to our usernames here and they could also have a way to create a link between twitter account and DeSo account. then twitter could have diamonds, only to twitter accounts that choose to create a DeSo account to associate. could only give diamonds to other users, or create a storage for users to collect if/when they link to DeSo. would this be good or bad?
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fizzler
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
It would be good but I doubt their advertisers would allow that.
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kitty4D
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
which part? and why? they already have resources to eliminate posts that break their rules. DeSo posts would account for how much of a percent of twitter posts per day? i'm sure their AI can handle it
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fizzler
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
And as a user, which node would you use? The Twitter DeSo node that has tons of advertising and censorship? Or a node like Diamondapp? If they merged with DeSo, it would be awesome because we would get a lot of Twitter users moving here! They would lose their walled garden and lose control over users. Not good for them. In fact, if I wanted to advertise on DeSo, why would I need to pay Twitter? I could even start my own node! It's OPEN.
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kitty4D
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
i'm not the user in question because i'm already here. i'm talking about the millions of twitter users that we want to come here. why would a person already on twitter with followers change sites when- -- twitter has better profile management, business features built in, posts can be shared anywhere looking nice -- links to twitter are (for now and very near future) more "trustworthy" to the general public and influencers/businesses/anyone would know this and would prefer to share links from a known source for obvious reasons i'm NOT pro-twitter lol
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fizzler
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
Let's say a DeSo node implements those features you list above. All things equal you have 2 nodes exactly the same except one (Twitter) has ads and blocks posts they do not like. Which will users choose? I just got back on Twitter myself and wow, I get more posts + ads from people I'm not following than posts from people I follow. It's pretty bad. I won't be using it much.
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kitty4D
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
they're not equal. Twitter has their data IN ADDITION to data from the b-chain. Twitter has millions of users that would not have linked their account to DeSo. their posts do not go onto the b-chain. any Twitter user would presumably have control over whether their posts go onto the b-chain or only stay on Twitter.
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fizzler
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
That's appealing if they are able to keep their users on Twitter after the merge. With a DeSo connection, the minute a user is blocked or gets tired of the ads, they may decide to jump ship to a DeSo node better for them. Many users on Twitter haven't even heard of DeSo but if Twitter merged then they surely would know DeSo then and have the option to move to a DeSo node. Since DeSo is open source, I think if Twitter was going this way, they would just copy the code and create their own coin etc... Corps exist to make the most money they can.
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kitty4D
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
>>>...but the lack of ads isn't a deterrant to people on Twitter right now. they don't care. the whole thing is rapid fire short messages, ads fit right in with that. and i personally have zero problem scrolling past ads assuming my adblocker isn't catching them anyway. they don't bother me, they look like any other tweet that i can ignore without even thinking. poor sharing functionality here matters. bad URLs matter. broken back arrow button matters. wasted space with 1st and 3rd columns matter. it's basic stuff and not getting it right looks bad.
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fizzler
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
You are comparing potential Twitter merged with a DeSo node to CURRENT DeSo nodes. How long do you think it would take Twitter to merge? And during that time wouldn’t DeSo nodes fill some if not all of those shortcomings? Compare DeSo nodes in that future with all of the competition to Twitter newly merged with DeSo at the same point in time for a more fair comparison.
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kitty4D
2021-12-20
• 9 months ago
well, of course i don't think twitter is going to do this because they simply don't need to. it would be great if they felt a need to do it. but if you think someone who is in the top, like, 50% of twitter users would see diamondapp (the official node, i doubt any other node/DeSo site gets more unique users per day) and think it's better - come on. *I get it*, *you get it*, but we can't delude ourselves. the site lacks basic functionality. b-chain is high tech, website is low tech. it works and those of us who know DeSo think that's great...>>>
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hugetiny
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
Wouldn't any successful node be good for DeSo? What's the downside?
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hugetiny
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
I've thought of downside. One of the big benefits of here is the small user base gives new accounts a chance. Being subsumed by Twitter would drown out new voices.
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kitty4D
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
because if twitter becomes a node, you lose most of the benefits to use in order to bring people off of it. the only thing to say then would be "to get away from twitter" but at that point twitter is displaying our data and has a profile from us no matter what we want.
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hugetiny
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
You could have nodes that filtered out posts that orientated on Twitter
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kitty4D
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
yes, here on diamondapp and other nodes. but how do you bring people to those nodes if twitter is a node? what do you tell them the benefit is? and you can't make posts here that wouldn't appear on twitter. twitter would be the ones making that decision.
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hugetiny
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
I'm assuming nodes would be able to offer the option for a post not to appear on Twitter (I think, I have no idea what the metadata for a post looks like) The draw to leave Twitter is the same--less toxic environment (I'd like a less hackneyed term)
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kitty4D
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
just answering everything stream-of-consciousness here since i said twitter probably wouldn't implement creator's coin (just an assumption, of course this is all hypothetical anyway), that would be a benefit to tell people from twitter. but it's also one of the hardest parts to explain. if twitter had diamonds people would already be able to "earn from posting". on twitter a diamond would probably be worth less to cover the fee owed to twitter for their generosity because why not? mo money for twitter
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hugetiny
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
Creator coin can be explained as a stock market for creators where each creator is their own stock. I think people can get that.
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kitty4D
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
but let's say twitter puts out something explaining why they don't implement creator coins, and that it is due to the potential for fraud- that the scams that may take place via twitter now don't involve direct transfers of money while on the twitter domain, but with creator coin they would be providing the means for criminals to fully carry out their fraud and they don't want to be seen as an accomplice to criminal activity. how would you argue with that statement to people you want to convince to leave twitter?
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kitty4D
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
but yes, presumably it ~should~ be great for $DeSo. note that i didn't say twitter would have creator coins. i don't think they would implement that feature.
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GlobalClout
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
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Raafeke
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
I think it would definitely pull the rug out from under DeSo. Not only because Twitter is more established but because most ppl there don’t understand the concept of what is going on here.
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StephenKelly
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
Pretty good. This would shift our demand curve to the right, raising the market price or something lol
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kitty4D
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
so twitter would have a lot of control over how DeSo performs. sounds great for DeSo. nothing better for decentralized social than a large corporation jumping in.
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StephenKelly
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
Don’t worry about the big firms haha The bigger they are, the harder they fall It’s out of our control
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AdamAndAria
2021-12-19
• 9 months ago
I really wish they would tbh
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