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2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
twitter thread from the founder of Siacoin/SiaSky - lots of problems because of what kinds of files people were uploading, and they want to remain "censorship-resistant" - damn. i pasted all of the things that happened to them as a result of this content simply existing on their site(s). of course they don't allow the content, but it still makes its way. and it gets detected somehow. i would have NEVER guessed. (i'm kidding, this is exactly why i've make a huge fuss about certain things and don't think the lackadaisical attitudes about it will serve anyone well when the ban hammers come down) https://twitter.com/davidvorick/status/1500342996998529026 "The key issue comes down to the 4 horsemen of internet censorship: Child Porn, Terrorism, Phishing, and Malware. If your website hosts or trafficks any of these 4 horsemen, nearly every layer of the Internet is going to collaborate to take your website offline." "Today it looks like we got stripped from the DNS layer, likely by Namecheap. We've also seen interference at the ISP layer, with some ISPs (especially in Europe) doing DNS hijacking or outright blocking siasky for their users. And we've seen intereference... ...at the browser layer, where Chrome blanket flags all links to siasky as potentially malicious and makes users click through to our website... ...at the email layer, where email providers will send every email with a siasky link to spam, and some email providers (including gmail!) will outright disappear the message. It doesn't even go to spam, it just disappears... ...and even at the Twitter layer. You may have noticed that I'm not linking to siasky directly (siasky dot net). This is because Twitter blocks all tweets linking to our website... ...and even our own company emails have also been perma-directed to spam. We had to switch to [email protected] but this only worked for a few weeks. Now emails from our new address are frequently going to spam as well."
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mcmarsh
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
I'm gonna guess this will be a "nodes problem" & "not important right now" /s lol good example to try to get the discussion going on here 🙏👍 thanks 🙏💪
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kitty4D
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
oh, i was not really bringing this up as an urgent concern really, just sharing stuff i read :) but it would for sure be more than just a node problem. the tactics they're describing that took them down would systematically take down every node if that's what it required lol it's one reason why i think nodes need to have an agreement amongst themselves and have a way to boot nodes that aren't adhering to the agreed-upon policies.
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mcmarsh
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
only takes someone to make a bot for it to become a big issue quickly. "after the horse has bolted" and all that appreciate your taking the time 🤗 would be nice to know it is on the radar for core etc
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kitty4D
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
i mean, it's no more urgent today than it was 3 months ago when i first started asking about this :)
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mcmarsh
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
lol keep at it 💪 I'm with ya 🍻🥂
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OliB
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
Yes. And this is also a weakness if bad actors want to take down DeSo. Imagine if DeSo became the social battleground for Russians because the Web2.0s were blocked. How do you think Russian trolls and bot networks would try to get DeSo taken out? By posting that stuff at scale.
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kitty4D
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
i don't understand though, why would they want to take anything down? that's like a virus killing its host
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OliB
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
Imagine if Russians were getting western news via DeSo and the State couldn’t simply ban the website like Facebook & Co. The State would have to get DeSo attacked by western Govs and Silicon Valley to get it taken down.
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kitty4D
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
but they can just block the websites, it's not like these are onion sites.
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OliB
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
You likely know more than I do on that. But I’ve seen a few suggestions to prevent blocking, or to at least enable cat and mouse enough to keep sprouting new nodes.
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kitty4D
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
i suppose it all depends on intent. if we're not actively attempting to provide news to anyone in Russia, we could block Russia ourselves. better to do that than to lose the ability to serve anyone. if we do want to get the news to them, i don't know that i'd do it via a website. seems like some kind of file drops could be safer. cause i would think if they can't easily block the website, they'd go after their citizens accessing these sites because that would be easier. so you wouldn't really want all this web traffic.
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OliB
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
That makes a lot of sense.
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hugetiny
2022-03-06
• 1 month ago
Who would have thunk this could happen? DeSo has been lucky up to now to avoid bad actors at scale. Probably because noting is happening at scale here ATM. Has the core team given any indication how they are planning for this eventuality?
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