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2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
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Part 2 of the Town Hall from January 12th. tell me if you have different feelings now listening, now that we've heard nothing much since, questions are still unanswered, had a fork that set off too early and postgres issues.. this was FOR the community, with limited time, when nader finally "gets sound" he makes it clear he couldn't have heard anything so i guess both speaking and listening were blocked and all that time we're to think he was working on the issue? then he spends time regurgitating things we already knew.. MULTIPOST
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2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
tell me, developers especially, if this happened to you, wouldn't you be eager to explain exactly what went wrong and how you solved it? and would you immediately blanket say "ofc i couldn't have heard ANYTHING you guys said" or do you wait for that to come up and then you would explain that. just strange. and, kanshi's sound was messed up and he says that's the only time that's happened to him? sandi was having problems. are there logs in discord that could be shown i wonder? i mean, you either think they're idiots or they did it on purpose, right?
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
what developer working on a blockchain has that much trouble either solving the issue on the one machine or simply using an alternate device? when you have limited time. there's no way, even if he's not nearly as bright as people have tried to portray him, that he was spending that time working on testing the mic and stuff. like what? and why wasn't he writing updates in discord? maybe he did, i dunno. i would have been happy for him to have answered in writing. maybe, i would have preferred it. ofc the sad part is they never addressed any of this.
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2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
this was part of my chat with meghanvita after the event. i was doing the recordings so i took the little window i had to try to get across some very simple and easy items that would have helped out tremendously if anyone thought they had any need to just try a little. she seemed to want to do better. this is my own baseless speculation, but whatever, to me i always thought she might have asked for other people to do a little something more (or "just care"), it didn't happen, and she left. cause she left right after this. she knew it was a shitshow.
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kanshi
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
FYI -> For me it was Google Hangout with Meghan + Sandi that kept the microphone (from my software mixer) locked in the browser. And yes, I almost never use Hangouts, so that meeting (right before the TH) was an oddity that broke my audio. I would expect the same happened to Sandi.
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
but you were in discord for audio, how was google hangouts part of it? omg are you serious? these people tried to have it so that when you weren't speaking on discord, you could talk in a private area amongst yourselves and get direction/etc from meghanvita?? who in the hell would have thought that was a good idea for something like this? that's insane LOL. they could just type! type! this is computer stuff, goodness. oh well, ok, yeah, that makes more sense now. what a stupid way to try to set things up!
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kanshi
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
1. That meeting happened before. 2. Read up on hardware resource locking in operating systems. 3. LOL. My sincere advice - try looking for information before publishing your theories. You're in fantasy world. Get back to earth ;)
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
and OK if you don't think i should post anymore, i guess i'll listen to you. ty for the wisdom ???
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
lol are you kidding me with this you think i really thought there was sabotage? jesus. if the meeting happened before, why did you remain in google hangouts? i very much understand why this would be a problem and that's why i think it was crazy ty very much for the attitude
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2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
ok you prob meant you had been in google hangouts, you logged out of google/etc, and then used discord in a web browser. or maybe discord was still the app, i know discord is awful with mics. i wasn't having an issue with you @kanshi you were trying to ask questions for us. i make wild speculation because my point is that if @deso just explained things to us or addressed it at all, there would be no reason for anyone to have wondered. i know there just aren't many people left here now, so you don't see much speculation, they all left or were never here
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kanshi
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
idk 🤷‍♀️ All I can do is read your message and respond. I saw you misrepresenting my words to match your theory. In such case, there is only one thing left to do - point it out ;) Yes, we're on the same side of the fence, and I do appreciate your speculation. But... please stay closer to the ground. I'm sure you'll get better results. Otherwise, our common cause will face ridicule, which neither of us want.
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
oh, when you said you had been in google hangouts and that caused the conflict you're right i made an incorrect assumption that it meant you were running them concurrently. sorry about that. but this whole thing is about me making crazy wild assumptions because that's what happens when things don't get addressed. it's kinda part of my thing. because there is so little communication from them. ofc i get there just aren't many people here. so it's hard to actually see anyone talking about anything. more people left because of the town hall, who maybe would still be talking about it on-chain. i don't think even if we had 5000 active people they would have said anything to address the event. they don't seem to understand how to anticipate how people may respond, and they seem to prefer going to course of ignoring and forgetting as opposed to actually reacting to things. every time it happens, i say, "well let's just wait and give them time to address this and we'll see, we shouldn't pass any judgments yet" and every time they do the thing that i certainly have the expectation for even though i'll post "i can't imagine they won't say something." i'm not really sure how anyone can pretend anything looks good about the way they handle anything that's happened since late december. i expect more. if they won't give it, i'm not going to cry about it, i personally don't deserve anything, and if the community here doesn't actually care then i have no reason to keep trying
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kanshi
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
I agree. And again, I do appreciate your speculation 💙 We've put a lot of effort in DesoVoices into getting the format - asking, picking the questions, delivering them in a coherent form. My main goal was to avoid the situation where no "real" questions were asked (as was kind of the case on the 1st TH). Still, most (if not all) of the requests are left unaddressed. And last but not least, my apologies for not writing my first post clearly, I'm flying a spaceship in VR so its hard to focus on the web ;)
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kanshi
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
Consider what would happen if Google Hangouts didn't properly release the handle to exclusively locked microphone drivers. Even after the meeting is done. This is what most likely happened to myself, Sandi and Meghan. I would guess also Nader as he probably used Hangouts before the meeting to communicate inside the team.
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
again, i don't really think something happened that had been planned by someone LOL now, i'm still kinda dumbfounded though that no one restarted their machine or used another device, it would have only taken a short time and would have made the rest of the time potentially fulfilling, but this isn't about that. it's about their very glaring lack of communication
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kanshi
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
Now you know how I felt when people were telling me I sound like shit and all my audio checks were passing... I do use a software sound mixer which made it even more confusing as when I did the checks I heard my voice clear... The solution I could have used was simply to switch to direct audio from the microphone rather then the mixer. Yes, restart would help too... Yes, silly me ;) I blame the general "nervousness" that comes with my public appearances. Normal effects of adrenaline. Narrow vision, fast&shallow thinking etc.
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
yeah i mean i get it, i'm not trying to say you should have thought about it in the moment. that's kinda what the people running the event are there for, to handle these things because "performers" shouldn't have to think about anything else. i kept trying to suggest that a little short break would have made a big difference. i was recording it and was able to talk to a few people who should have had some ability to affect things. it's easy for me to say these things from the sidelinesright? -- EXACTLY, so maybe they should start listening LOL
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
bah ^^^"sidelines, right?"
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kanshi
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
Totally :) There are plenty of obvious blind spots we all see and contemplate ;)
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mp3
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
the sound issues were unintentional
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
but it sure SEEMS odd that a PROGRAMMER couldn't figure out a solution to this? i mean, if we're blaming discord, where's the bug report we submitted? did they respond? what's the status? or do they feel ok just having a discord issue make them look like they don't know what they're doing, when they have people investing a lot of money into their project? just simple things here ya know. no one seems to pay any attention to any details. (not you, not directing that towards you mp3)
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mp3
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
was the technical difficulty a bit frustrating? yes! but I don't believe it to have been intentional. it happened to multiple people including members who were unaffiliated with the core team
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
yeah NO exactly i don't think that either, but when they don't say anything, people speculate. i mean, we don't know anything really. nothing much was said about it officially. no "sorry everyone we know that didn't go the way we wanted. we will try to [.do..something] to make this up" this is just general adult behavior right? it's not difficult, so why was nothing done? i mean am i wrong? especially when you know, probably many people are counting on them, financially i would assume. it's like the least someone can do after that kind of problem.
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mp3
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
counting on them financially is a mistake. nobody should do that.
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
oh- i absolutely do not LOL but aren't there big investors? vinkleboss or something?
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mp3
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
its listed idk off top
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
yeah i just meant, those people are counting on them i assume. presumably they actually have a way to ask questions and get answers. or they're in on the game and don't care about any actual stuff. who knows. when i don't know, i try to think of what the answer could be. maybe they all plan to like treat the community to big prizes LOL
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mp3
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
is what it is :P
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
you're taking the time to respond to me, but they can't? they're actually so busy they can't address one of the most awful events i can remember anywhere to the community, but nader can talk about 3.6% BS ?? how many core devs? 5, 6? don't seem to be doing much. ofc, how would we know. Ty is doing documentation, which i had offered to do for free. weird! it's like they're in their final 2 wks let us know things aren't dead yo LOL how difficult is it it's dead right now cause they ain't been talkin. don't care if you talk to me, i don't need it.
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mp3
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
didnt dylan just say in discord its not dead?
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
i feel like we're going to know before they do.
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mp3
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
Only God knows the future ;-)
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
well i suppose it is technically true, when i say i know the sun will rise tomorrow, i actually don't know this. i believe it based on everything i know and have experienced. i have never been wrong with this prediction. wouldn't be here if i had been. none of us. how far my knowledge and experience take me in terms of how reliable my predictions are and where i draw the line, only God knows this answer :D but psst, i can predict this price stuff. same as i can predict the sun will rise tomorrow. haven't been wrong yet. don't worry, you can trust me.
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mp3
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
nah nothing odd about it. i was there when it happened. it was the first time having a big meeting like that and it got worked out fairly quick. I don't think anyone was trying to sabotage the meeting, atleast that wasnt the vibe at the time
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2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
so what was the issue? it was about 30 minutes before he had sound. was this issue related to @Sandirose also having problems? and @kanshi having his mic not work for the first time he knew of, also a different issue? i get it, i don't think this was someone sabotaging all that equipment (it would be far more likely that they were in on it too than someone sabotaging all that stuff, lol). the problem is we never got any response. they never addressed it. i mean, WHO is investing money into this project? are they not asking questions? why not???
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mp3
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
to be fair its quite hard to address every concern at all times. even if it was the sole job of one person to reply 24/7 they would still miss some people. I'm not saying your concerns are not valid, we need a better system of communication of information. Its unrealistic to think a small team can manage a world wide community, yet they do their best. Not only are they building/ interviewing/ negotiating deals/ etc they also do a decent job of addressing our concerns imo. Always room for improvement tho
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
i mean they should have said something to the community, for whom the town hall event took place. not me personally. i've only expected that on one issue and that's because i had already gotten responses about it, before being ghosted. transparency would be nice. the Solana DAO i'm in is setting an amazing example for what should be expected from the teams in charge of these projects. and they're also producing results. sure i'd like to know what nader, fastfreddie, jacksondean, and maebeam are currently working on, but i'm not gonna shout that.
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Sandirose
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
Lots of people ask very intelligent questions daily but it appears that is taken as negativity and not welcomed.
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Sandirose
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
I think the sound issues were unintentional and I don't think anyone knows what caused the issues. What I don't think was unintentional was that Nader had a "meeting" to go to not long after I finally got my mic back. Either he was sick of me asking questions or was just over the whole thing. Going into it, we were never told there was a hard cutoff time. It was my hope that they would have taken the Google sheet of all of questions posted on chain prior to the town hall and the Google doc Kanshi and I created with the more official/aggregated questions and look to those to identify the main pain points and slowly address them. But there are a number of issues the community cares about that the core team doesn't (or at least they don't seem them as a priority) which is when the "only devs and development matters" narrative surfaced.
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kitty4D
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
yeah 100% taking the questions that were already on paper and answering them over the course of the next week or two would have been a GREAT way to say "hey we're sorry about how that went, and we're going to do this" - which wouldn't ACTUALLY have been them going above and beyond it's what we expected on that day, but hell, we've grown so accustomed to things that just doing what is expected within 2 weeks of the initial date is like WOOO PARTY WAGMI i mean, normal adults know how to respond to these kinds of things.. or they ask, very least. I'd help.
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Sandirose
2022-02-21
• 3 months ago
Agreed, on all of this. The original plan was to circle back with Meghan on the items that didn't get a clear response or needed a follow up but obviously that door closed and no new ones opened.
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