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2022-04-25
• 3 months ago
so i guess i'll update with some thoughts after gaining access to those unsecured daodao docs and seeing the actual beta website (not the mock-up one that people may have seen that was directly shown in that video). i'm not really going to talk directly about any of the info since, well, it wasn't meant for people outside of their team to see and so wasn't necessarily written to explain things properly since presumably there were also phone calls/etc where people on the team would have better context. so it wouldn't be totally fair for me to just talk about anything specific. i guess this is directed towards @deso and @nader and @mossified and @Dylanjaggerlee probably. i don't assume what i say is right. these are my opinions and i understand that- i'm not all-knowing, no one can be. the main thing of course is that communication is still sorely lacking. i understand to some extent that you wanted to keep daodao a little distant from deso, that's all well and good, but it seems to have gone further than simply not wanting a lot of deso mentions in the discord and i'm not exactly sure why the thought was that we wouldn't understand if you just said it. i certainly understand not wanting to mention deso directly in materials. it's not like it's some secret that deso doesn't carry a sparkling reputation with the .. well, the ethereum-based web3 crowd, which is the crowd you should want + need to get on board with daodao since that's where the big daos are. i don't feel like that is something difficult for us to understand here. so where's the harm in just posting this kind of thing here? this is not difficult to write: "hey, obviously we care about deso and daodao is built on deso, and we care about the deso community, but we hopefully have your support regardless and what's good for daodao we think (and hope you agree) will be good for deso, so we hope everyone understands that for the marketing and promotion of daodao, we want to keep the daodao/deso relationship under the hood. the reason is that we want to attract people who are not already fans of deso, and many of the people who are not fans of deso but are invovled with daos on other blockchains may not hold deso in high regard for various reasons, many of which i'm sure you know or suspect." i mean, you can post this kind of thing here on deso. surely you're not worried it would "get out" because.. well, we're small and things don't exactly go viral from here (yet?). but that there was a concerted effort to essentially ignore deso (meaning, ignoring posts made on deso) because of worries about people here that would potentially be critical - it's.. well, you know, it's almost like the opposite of what i would think you should do. because the lack of communication is what causes the "fudding" to happen more than anything. surely we want daodao and deso to succeed to a similar extent as you, or we wouldn't be here if we've been here for a long time. you can, i think, be more honest with the deso crowd than maybe you want to be with people in discord and elsewhere. as long as it doesn't appear like you're willfully trying to hide things from anyone, then it doesn't really hurt anything if any of that info DID get to people in discord. i mean, i don't think it would hurt to be more upfront with everyone, but the deso crowd is the one that will go out in pursuit of digging for more info, so leaving us wondering anything only makes us look harder. and i guess one thing that does confuse me is what was going on in january and february. when we first found out about daodao in early february, i thought it was said that efforts had been all focused on daodao. but (and i could be wrong) it seems actual development didn't begin until after the announcement. maybe it was a bunch of calls and meetings & secret mockups for the hype site. & just to say, the @niccage thing - it's weird, maybe people are starting to forget about it. i think the general consensus was that it is an alt of @nader but i dunno. (i suspect it) i get the "strategy" of making things mysterious but i feel like when reserved accounts are kinda meant to prevent impersonations (though, mainly growth hack i think), and you presumably go against that by impersonating someone (with? without? permission?), and making a large purchase, this comes across as some form of manipulation, though it could be a side effect of a misguided viral marketing attempt. thx for reading if you did~ if anyone responds, hey, that's communication and that's always good unless there's dishonesty. and when there may have been dishonesty in the past, normal people respect when people suck it up and come clean cause it takes courage and shows character. (and when i say dishonesty, i'm NOT implying any took place- but i also mean "willful omission of information that better explains situations", and i feel like that PROBABLY has taken place at times) but like i said, just my opinions~ :D all respect. <3
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kitty4D
2022-04-25
• 3 months ago
also, @mossified has said it's known communication needs to be better. i told him this already, but i'll say it again- i'll believe it when i see it. because we've heard it already. :D but before that's given as a response to this, believe me, i'm very aware that you should realize this fact and i don't think you need to say it, better to show by doing it. you still may want to say it, but i'm just sayin', i'm not worrying much anymore until i see it. me not worrying = me not caring so much. and maybe i don't matter. (i do care about security though!)
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hugetiny
2022-04-25
• 3 months ago
How about a town hall where people can raise all their concerns? That'd be cool.
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kitty4D
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
yeah i mean i had my own conspiracy theory about that thing, wish i had found a doc about that whole ordeal lol always felt like things happened way too conveniently there. i just.. don't think they could have pulled off the stuff it would have taken to actually do the stuff i thought. ineptitude is occam's razor slicing ever so slowly across the mic connections.
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AlexRokin
2022-04-25
• 3 months ago
Unfortunately, town halls are useless. Nothing said or promised there are executed. Town halls served only for one goal for now: - to satisfy ego of users that they can be seen by core & feel the touch of "DeSo gods" (works for newcomers) - psychological session to relief stress by making new announcements & making new promises that hardly will be implemented; & please some members of the community.
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hugetiny
2022-04-25
• 3 months ago
Sure, this was kinda tongue in check. That town hall at the beginning of the year went disastrously in terms of making the community feel listened to.
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kitty4D
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
@AlexRokin yeah the town hall is the moment everything really changed for me. though it started with the @nader post around christmas about celebrity coins. that was the first time i said on deso, something like, "yeah this is disastrous and i can't believe it happened, but i think we should wait and see what the response is because i can't imagine we won't get one" -- and we never got one. and the town hall was the 2nd big occurrence of that. fool me once. never again.
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AlexRokin
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
To tell the truth, I loved what was happening after town halls, where we all could just chat with each others (zoom, entre, clubhouse), just connecting with other community members. But it's hard to do often for me both emotionally & bc of time I have for it.
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kitty4D
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
well, it wasn't great after the last town hall, because a lot of people left DESO because of it i'm pretty sure. you know everyone can talk on-chain, or in discord, or wherever anytime LOL
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AlexRokin
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
Agree
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Matreshka
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
Thank you for finding that security issue and thank yoy for taking the time to share about it all. You are amazing.
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kitty4D
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
i guess i'm hoping one of these days people will notice that it wouldn't be a bad idea to read what i write (and have written about) and maybe even ask me what i think about something. i'm pretty sure normal people look at it as a strength to take various people's ideas into consideration, not a weakness! but that's right- free consultations from miss kitty. just call my 1-800 number and i'll reveal everything to you. the first 10 minutes are the free part, and then it's only $1.99 DESO per minute. kids get your parents' permission first.
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PeaKing
2022-04-25
• 3 months ago
It seems I missed a lot while on vacation... Absolutely agree the fud mainly comes from everything being an absolute surprise. And yes niccage is definitely Nader 😂
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kitty4D
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
yeah, maybe i would advise @nader and @deso / @DAODAO to instead in the future opt to use the character's name in that movie (national treasure i think?) for the username instead of the actor's name, if this is truly the case. you know, that would not have come across potentially manipulative.
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PeaKing
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
Agreed. Or at least purchase the first gold under your own name 😂
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AlexRokin
2022-04-25
• 3 months ago
Awesome post! Thanks for sharing it. P. S. You are very careful in your tone and way of speaking 😄 true diplomat 👍
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kitty4D
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
i'm here because i like @deso and so i'm not like out to destroy anything and i'm not trying to hurt the reputation of @nader or @deso or @daodao or @mossified or @Dylanjaggerlee or anyone else involved, so besides wanting to be courteous and respectful i also don't want anyone who is unlike me and actually is some kind of FUD-only person to get actual fuel from my posts. i am sure they do anyways, but that kind of person doesn't need me for it anyway, they tend to fuel themselves in some kind of awkward self-immolation i'm-always-angry song and dance.
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mossified
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
Appreciate you always looking out for us and being a supporter!
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kitty4D
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
i'm certain it's not ALWAYS appreciated so much and i'm sure sometimes i say things that i don't know enough about, but, we're all human here, community and foundation alike :D i at least don't go out of my way trying to post negative things or information i shouldn't have to try to make a quick buck. which maybe is why i'm usually broke, so i don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but i'd rather die happy than wealthy (that's what i always tell myself at least lol). so ty for the diamonds, i appreciate them :)
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AlexRokin
2022-04-26
• 3 months ago
Absolutely! This is the right way to do things in most cases 👍
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