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2022-02-08
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2022-02-08
• 7 months ago
FTC agreed to a $5.7 million settlement with TikTok (Musical.ly) over violating COPPA. First, TikTok did not seek previous permission of the parents to retain the data. Second, TikTok did not properly secure the minor's data from third parties or other users of the app. Third, when parents were informed their child's information was being collected and they requested TikTok to remove the data, TikTok did not delete the information from the app. Finally, since the children's information was still public on the app, adults using TikTok were able to contact the minors.
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ty @tijn @4down @NowAndThen and others who have tried to help me bring this up. i know there are people who think this should be solved by each dev, each app/site/service deals with it on their own. law firms probably LOVE this take. every dev has to hire lawyers to figure out how exactly they're impacted by not knowing what kind of data they might be displaying since the blockchain could have anything, and how they can be secure knowing they won't get destroyed by fines. but i get having this stance. after all, isn't that how things work now? kind of, yes- but the devs are creating their databases, not typically sharing a database with unknown people. easier to be responsible for data only you control. but still, sure- individual devs and companies could manage this on their own. i mean, presumably. i honestly don't know if anyone can say how the immutability will be dealt with if the FTC investigates. but CLEARLY it's going to happen, it's not like this is going to be a secret for long- in fact we're hoping and maybe betting on it not being a secret for much longer. soo, surely since this is a factor shared by all devs, we could maybe try to move this whole legal crap up a level and deal with it collectively? since a big selling point of building on DESO, that @DESO and @nader repeat, is that using the blockchain makes it easier than the alternatives to create that new site or app or service you'd been dreaming of.. i mean, i know i wouldn't need to hire lawyers if i built anything with my own database. everything is pretty simple there. (mind you, i'm only talking about handling COPPA/GDPR-K compliance for the people NOT WANTING to allow children to use their product, it's a much bigger ordeal to do the alternate, and personally i think allowing any node to allow profiles for children might add too many complications for everyone else and thus maybe part of the solution will have to involve creating some kind of consensus amongst nodes and a way to handle nodes that want to do their own thing completely, but again, this is why some kind of collective discussion would be great to figure that stuff out) just seems like if everybody is having to hire lawyers to do the same stuff, hey- there's probably a way to save time and money for everyone AND maintain that vision of deso being a fast way to create a product at the same time! now, some people also try to say that the law shouldn't matter, parents are responsible. i mean, it's a weird take in my opinion, since these laws are made to help parents parent, but again this is not about the spirit of the law to me. this is about the penalties and the fact that this legal work is repeated and what happens if some people don't explain the blockchain well enough to the lawyers and so some people don't get advised taking the immutability into account and so on it's just very messy in my opinion. but yeah i mean i guess the kids whose parents have to work more and can't monitor them 24/7, if they post stuff online, we're just going to hold those children accountable for it. if that's the side someone wants to take, i guess it's like, your prerogative. again, i don't even really like kids.
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2022-02-08
• 7 months ago
If a node choose to allow kids there could be a, as yet non-existent, flag indicating it's a <13 account. Other nodes could then avoid those accounts/content.
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kitty4D
2022-02-08
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i would argue what benefit really comes from it though
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hugetiny
2022-02-08
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I don't know why a node would want kids. The features would have to be stripped down to next to nothing. I don't even know if commenting would be cool. Think Club Penguin. What normal adult would want to be there? But it would provide a solution for the other nodes to steer clear of the problematic content.
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kitty4D
2022-02-08
• 7 months ago
no, i meant more, why would that node even want to have chosen the blockchain. there could be a completely separate deso blockchain "for kids" if that was something desired. then it would make sense to me.
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